Erik Naggum Quotes

• It's not that Perl programmers are idiots, it's that the language rewards idiotic behavior in a way that no other language or tool has ever done.

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  Tools, Done, Rewards

  "Can lisp do what perl does easily?". Usenet discussion groups, groups.google.com. March 28, 2000.

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• it's just that in C++ and the like, you don't trust anybody, and in CLOS you basically trust everybody. The practical result is that thieves and bums use C++ and nice people use CLOS.

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  Nice, People, Thieves

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• If you are concerned about netiquette, you are either concerned about your own and follow good netiquette, or you are concerned about others and violate good netiquette by bothering people with your concern, as the only netiquette you can actually affect is your own.

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  People, Bother, Concern

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• Life is hard, and then you die.

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  Life Is Hard, Life Is, Dies

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• Getting C programmers to understand that they cause the computer to do less than minimum is intractable. … Ask him why he thinks he should be able to get away with unsafe code, core dumps, viruses, buffer overruns, undetected errors, etc., just because he wants speed.

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  Thinking, Errors, Etc

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• They don't make poles long enough for me want to touch Microsoft products, and I don't want any mass-marketed game-playing device or Windows appliance near my desk or on my network. This is my workbench, dammit, it's not a pretty box to impress people with graphics and sounds. When I work at this system up to 12 hours a day, I'm profoundly uninterested in what user interface a novice user would prefer.

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  Games, Long, People

  Re: Why lisp failed in the marketplace (Usenet article), groups.google.com. February 16, 1997.

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• The novice-friendly software is more like a misbehaving dog: it shits on the floor, it destroys things, and stinks - the novice-friendly software embodies the opposite of what computer people have dreamed of for decades: artificial stupidity. It's more human.

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  Perro, Opuestos, Personas

  "Read the fine manual, please". Usenet discussion groups, groups.google.com. November 14, 1997.

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• Some people are little more than herd animals, flocking together whenever the world becomes uncomfortable … I am not one of those people. If I had a motto, it would probably be Herd thither, me hither.

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  Animal, People, Together

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• Por eso las empresas más inteligentes utilizan Common Lisp, pero mienten al respecto para que todos sus competidores piensen que Lisp es lento y C++ rápido.

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  Lying, Thinking, Use

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• The Web provided me with a much needed realization that information cannot be fully separated from its presentation, and showed me something I knew without verbalizing explicitly, that the presentation form we choose communicates real information.

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  Real, Information, Communicate

  "S-exp vs XML, HTML, LaTeX (was: Why lisp is growing)". Usenet article, groups.google.com. December 28, 2012.

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• Unfortunately, nigh the whole world is now duped into thinking that silly fill-in forms on web pages is the way to do user interfaces.

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  Silly, Thinking, World

  "Pause for keystroke". groups.google.com. OCtober 6, 2001.

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• Gotos aren't damnable to begin with. If you aren't smart enough to distinguish what's bad about some gotos from all gotos, goto hell.

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  Smart, Hell, Enough

  "Re: destroying CLOS objects". Usenet article, groups.google.com. October 14, 2000.

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• Life is too long to know C++ well.

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  Long, Life Is, Wells

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• La optimización suele ser perjudicial para el éxito futuro, pero es la única manera de lograr el éxito presente en competencia con otros que están igualmente interesados en los resultados a corto plazo.

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  Competition, Way, Results

  "O'reilly subjugated to the Lisp juggenaut". Usenet discussion groups, groups.google.com. January 18, 2004.

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• Would you buy a book proudly stating on the cover that its reader is a dummy? Or would you think "of course it's ironic"?

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  Book, Thinking, Ironic

  Read the fine manual, please (Usenet article), groups.google.com. November 14, 1997.

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• I guess there are some things that are so gross you just have to forget, or it'll destroy something within you. Perl is the first such thing I have known.

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  Firsts, Forget, Gross

  Re: can lisp do what perl does easily?(Usenet article), groups.google.com. March 28, 2000.

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• Part of any serious QA is removing Perl code the same way you go over a dilapidated building you inherit to remove chewing gum and duct tape and fix whatever was kept together for real.

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  Real, Together, Tape

  Re: can lisp do what perl does easily? (Usenet article), groups.google.com. March 23, 2000.

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• Ignoring for a moment the power of the American Medical Association, we still wouldn't see a huge amount of books on neurosurgery for dummies in 21 days or whatever. It's just plain inappropriate, and it's intentionally out of people's reach.

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  Book, People, Association

  "Is LISP dying?". Usenet discussion groups, groups.google.com. July 15, 1999.

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• I may be biased, but I tend to find a much lower tendency among female programmers to be dishonest about their skills, and thus do not say they know C++ when they are smart enough to realize that that would be a lie for all but perhaps 5 people on this planet.

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  Smart, Lying, Skills

  Re: In praise of Java (Usenet article), groups.google.com. December 1, 2001.

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• Well, take it from an old hand: the only reason it would be easier to program in C is that you can't easily express complex problems in C, so you don't.

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  Hands, Would Be, Problem

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• C no es limpio: el lenguaje tiene muchas trampas y, aunque su semántica es sencilla en cierto sentido, no es más limpio que el lenguaje ensamblador en el que se basa.

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  Simple, Design, Language

  Re: teaching and learning with LISP/Scheme (Usenet article), groups.google.com. June 20, 2000.

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• Un poco de conocimiento es algo peligroso. Lamento que esto no sea fatal.

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  Regret, Littles, Dangerous

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• I have long since given up dealing with people who hold idiotic opinions as if they had arrived at them through thinking about them.

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  Pensar, Largo, Gente

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• Historically, labor unions arose when people had gotten a taste of a different lifestyle and were willing to pay a lot more for their basic livelihood and had gotten into a fix they couldn't get out of - because they had accepted the unacceptable to begin with. Accepting something you have to form a labor union to fight after the fact only tells me that people were acting against their own best (or even good) interests for a long time. I don't see any rational, coherent explanation for this sort of behavior in humans, but it's all over the place.

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  Fighting, Long, People

  "Source access vs dynamism". Usenet discussion groups, groups.google.com. August 28, 1999.

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• In Norway, we have a community of people who prefer to use a version of Norwegian that looks very much like lutefisk: Dug up remains from the garbage heap of history and dressed up to look like a tradition.

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  People, Community, Looks

  Re: Irish road-signs are now metric (Usenet article), groups.google.com. February 21, 2005.

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